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“True hospitality is welcoming the stranger on her own terms. This kind of hospitality can only be offered by those who’ve found the center of their lives in their own hearts.” – Henri Nouwen
This week on the Momastery Facebook page I posted a few links to The Bloggess. I believe her to be one of the funniest persons on our sweet little planet. Some Lovies did not think so. Some Lovies wrote to me concerned that I’d endorsed a writer who uses so much profanity.
This happens sometimes. I disappoint conservative people and liberal people both, because I don’t often stand still long enough to take a stand. I’m a restless wanderer.
I’m so grateful that this has happened, though. Conflict is the good stuff. Conflict is what helps us stretch and grow. But only when we are honest and kind about it . . . like these Lovies were. They didn’t sit at home and feel angry and confused and give up on our community. They reached out, respectfully and honestly. And now I owe it to them to do the same. What we are trying to do here is to learn how to live well in community, how to love and try to understand all kinds of people . . . and that’s hard. But we can do hard things.
I’m glad we brought up the profanity issue, because it’s something I think about a whole lot.
The profanity that raised concern was the four-letter-word kind. Luckily these Lovies didn’t nose around the Bloggess’ site long enough to discover that she also writes a WOWZA sex column. I haven’t read it, though, because I don’t want to discover even more things to feel guilty about never doing for Craig.
But back to the four-letter-words kind of profanity.
You know, maybe God is up in heaven keeping lists of bad words and tallying how many times who’s saying each one. Maybe those arbitrary four letter words that are different in every country, culture, and era are the unwholesome, crude talk that the Bible insists we avoid. Maybe.
Or maybe God’s actually referring to the most harmful kind of talk in which people of light can participate… gossip talk and ungrateful talk and racist and sexist and classist talk and sarcasm and snide, dismissive, apathetic remarks and maybe even nasty phrases like more and not my problem and us/them and looking out for number one and the scariest phrase of all - the deserving poor. As if there is any other kind?
Or maybe He’s talking about language intended to exclude people. Religious talk does that sometimes. Religious words can be used to make people feel in and other people feel out and if they’re used that way, to suggest that some people are “God people” and others aren’t, then I think religious words become profane.
And you know, if four letter words are used in a way that helps a Sister express herself, tell her truth, make her art, relate to other people, get it OUT, then I think Jesus would dig it. I really do. I think Jesus likes REAL, whatever form it comes in. I guess I just think it’s not as black and white as it seems. I think we’ve each got deep wells of profanity inside us. Deep enough to keep us busy bailing our own wells before dipping into anybody else’s.
While we’re on the subject, sort of….I heard a sermon on the radio recently, given by the minister of one of the largest churches in the country. He was passionately insisting that Christians should protect themselves from secular music. He used the example of rap and discussed with disgust its profanity. He said that Christians, adult Christians, should stay away from it at all costs, or it could corrupt them.
It really got to me, that sermon.
I sometimes listen to gangster rap. Don’t laugh. I like art, any art that is true and raw and real and sometimes rap fits the bill. And sometimes as I listen to a song, an angry song, about poverty and dead ends and the hopelessness and the violence that are the inevitable results I think . . . Jesus would love this song. I don’t think he’d cover his ears and turn up his nose and run away because of the crudeness. I don’t think the coarseness would offend him. As a matter of fact, the people who were a little rough around the edges never offended Jesus. The shiny perfect Pharisees did, though. He called them vipers and white washed tombs. Poisonous. Perfect and shiny outside, decaying on the inside.
You know, if Jesus were that pastor, I don’t think he’d tell his people to turn off the radio. I think he’d tell them to turn it up and listen, even if it made them uncomfortable. He’d tell them to Listen to the stories of people who’ve been oppressed and marginalized and are crying out for someone to hear them and step in. He’d say…sounds a lot like the Psalms, doesn’t it? And instead of allowing his followers to comfort themselves by creating false groups of us/them (they are so bad…we are so good…we must not become contaminated!) I think Jesus might ask them to listen to the despair and anger and to ask themselves, how am I part of this problem? What can I, as their neighbor, do to help level the playing field? Jesus didn’t say: “Love your neighbor, unless they offend you.” I’m not sure that being easily offended is a luxury that people who’ve been commanded to love each other can enjoy. Otherwise we are in danger of becoming people who were born on third base, peeved that those not issued a ticket into the ballpark refuse to complain sweetly enough.
I just think that if this pastor was so very upset by poverty and the agony it causes, maybe instead of suggesting that his well-off congregation flee from it, he might have suggested that they skip the mall and lunch after church and use the time and money to serve some meals to the poor instead? Maybe go meet some of these gangsters…maybe head to the prisons, to the homeless shelters…To Samaria, like Jesus did, instead of walking around it or away from it.
There was this town is Jesus’ day called Samaria. Jews did NOT go to Samaria. Samarians were dirty. Morally questionable. Samaria was the wrong side of the tracks. Jews would add lots and lots of time to their trips to walk around Samaria. But in the gospels, whenever they mention Jesus’ travels, they are careful to include that he walks through Samaria.
Always right through it, that Jesus. Rolling deep with his entourage, the twelve disciples. Laaaaiiiid back. With their minds on their sandals and their sandals on their minds.
Jesus enjoyed Samaria, and the people there. He actually met one of his favorite people there . . . someone he used as an example of how to love your neighbor. The Good Samaritan. Maybe gangster rap is like Samaria. Maybe “profane” blogs are. Maybe a lot of places we avoid are. Maybe there’s really good people we can learn from in these places. The whole world is God's, and everything in it.
But all of this is beside the point. Some of you will agree with these thoughts of mine and some will find them ridiculous. And the point is that that’s okay. We can disagree and still love each other.
My real point is this: There are these monks called the Benedictines, and they live in monasteries all over the world and follow the Rule, which is a set of ideas about living in community written by St Benedict a long, long time ago. I actually study this Rule often to decide to handle situations in my heart and on this blog and in my friendships and my home. And here’s one of my favorite parts:
“Persevere. Bear with great patience each other’s infirmities of body or behavior. And when the thorns of contention arise, daily forgive, and be ready to accept forgiveness.”
So if you are someone who considers cursing to be a weakness, please bear with us cursers with great patience, and daily forgive us. And if you are someone who considers intolerance for cursing a weakness, please bear with us with great patience and daily forgive us. Persevere. Try to see through to the God in us. As St. Benedictine says . . . "Listen with the ear of the heart.”
I have a class of students who are doing some really important work in their lives, learning about the impacts of violence and learning, and this very issue has come up in the class. There's at least one person who is greatly triggered by profanity. There are several students who have survived violence through toughness and have protected themselves by the use of strong language. This group of students are working super hard to support one another---they are champions and probably make many of us here look like amateurs in this daily survival game, and if they can work it out, I believe you all can here.
ReplyDeleteIn interest of full disclosure, I would say about myself that I love a well placed swear word! I can and do contain it when necessary, but also feel that sometimes it particularly fits my mood and the idea I'm trying to convey. Sometimes I use it in humour. I can certainly use it in anger and would rarely hold it back in that situation--it protects me and makes me strong. If you're shaking your head and wondering why I can't be strong with out it, then you don't experience anger, danger, fear the way I do and that's okay. But please don't judge me-
The use of profanity in humour (what the Bloggess is known for) is certainly not for everyone, but if it's not your cup of tea you should steer clear. I think you can't judge, though, those of us who benefit from her humour because within it is someone who is fighting all the time for justice, peace, mental and physical health and general understanding. That's not something I want to miss out on---it's edifying to me. That's why I choose to read her blog. She makes me laugh and think. I can't think of anything more important to me: laughing and thinking.
It's like you stole my brain. These are my points precisely regarding "cursing". Thank you for posting this!
ReplyDeletePerfect. And that story of the Good Samaritan? It was meant to shock the people. Jesus was good at that. Shocking the people who thought they had a free pass into heaven. Thanks for this one!
ReplyDeleteThanks for this spot-on post. I absolutely love your perspective.
ReplyDeleteFor someone who thinks they are so "not together" you are one of the most put together persons I know. Your perspective is amazing and full of truth and your heart....well, I aspire to have a heart like yours. Love you! This post is a new favorite. BTW...to each his own on the profanity/Bloggress issue. If you don't like it, don't read it. I found her hilarious but then again I've been known to drop the f-bomb a few times myself.
ReplyDeleteLove, love, love this.
ReplyDeleteMental picture of me: Little lady in the blue blouse and white cardigan at the sink doin ma dishes, thinkin knock knock motherfucker, laugh laugh laughin. I might not cuss but I thought the chicken story was hilarious. Throughout the day that phrase kept coming back. Go figure. I love your perspective.
ReplyDelete~Em
Ode to a Four-Letter Word. And I don’t mean "okay."
ReplyDeleteBy Kathryn Schulz
http://nymag.com/arts/books/features/adam-mansbach-2011-6/
awesome quote:
I know of no better rebuttal to the “bad words are bad writing” equation than film critic Anthony Lane’s brutal 2005 takedown of Star Wars in The New Yorker. Listen to Yoda for a moment: “Mourn them do not. Miss them do not. The shadow of greed that is.” Now listen to Lane demolish—with awesome precision, as one demolishes a single building in a city block—that mangled syntax and ersatz wisdom: “Break me a fucking give.”
Love this. One of the points I agree with so much and think about often on many levels is how people feel "uncomfortable" with things (cursing, cancer, elderly people, etc etc etc) and how hard (and admirable) it is to push through that feeling to experience life. To give things a chance even if they makes us antsy. I don't have a problem with profanity when it's used well, in fact I love it when it's used well. Of course I prefer not to hear the F-bomb dropped when I'm out with my kids, and I will fire a dirty look at the offender for that, but profanity has it's place and I enjoy it there. :)
ReplyDeleteGlennon:
ReplyDeleteI want to be you when I grow up. Do you know it didn't even occur to me to be offended by blogess. I loved it, and sent it on to others without wondering if people will be offended. I didn't even give it a header like, "the language might offend"
And do you know what is HYSTERICAL...I do that when I send YOUR blog to people. I say, "WARNING: YOU MIGHT FIND THIS A LITTLE LORDY OR JESUS-Y, BUT I LOVED IT".
And the reason that I want to be you when I grow up is: Apparently when I grow up to be you, I will not respond to people who I accidentally offended or whose sensibilities are outside of what I even think to consider, and by saying "Oh PLEASE," Instead I will say, "THANK you." I understand that you hear the grace of people letting you know what it feels like to be them, and you love them for that.
Sometimes, I don't even try to love people when I feel judged or am accused of judging..but I am going to try. I am not going to try and stop dropping the f*bomb because honestly, I don't even eat sugar any more...I have no vices left, and I just want to keep this one to stay human. Instead I am going to listen for the love...just like Mama Monkee taught me.
As a writer, the thought of removing certain words from my vernacular makes me kind of antsy... kind of nervous and shaky. It's like demanding that an artist not use a certain shade of red because it's too bold and may offend people, or that a musician may not use a certain beat or rhythm because it may shock the public. Yet when art and music moved beyond those barriers, the Dalis and Kahlos and Beethovens of the world were able to find their voices.
ReplyDeleteBold reds, booming basses, and "F" bombs are shocking; they're supposed to be. Like the richest and strongest of spices, they should be used sparingly and appropriately in order to be most off use to the artist. I agree that strong language is overused... but does that make it badly used, always?
oh my gosh everyone is so smart i can't even take it.
ReplyDeleteI love this Glennon. Absolutely love it. (I have also been reading the bejeesus out of the Bloggess since you linked to her.)
ReplyDeleteI love that you linked this to Samaria, and how uncomfortable things are usually the most important things. I face this daily with homeless and mentally ill people on the subway. I struggle so much with wanting to ignore and dodge because they make me uncomfortable. Instead of doing the hard thing, the thing that Jesus would have done, which is to love them more, and engage them.
My husband, a product of a lot of Jesuit education, often responds to questions about what Jesus would do with some variation on "wash the feet of the Lepers. Jesus was all about the Lepers."
I'm definitely not saying that those who curse are comparable to Lepers, because anyone who knows me can tell you I swear like sailor. But that using the way other people are, or express themselves, as an excuse not to hear them reflects on us, not them.
There are some communities in which profanity (as those who don't live in that community describe it) is a norm. It's part of the communication. And one of those communities is gansta rap. If I don't like it, I can choose to not listen to it.
ReplyDeleteMy difficulty is in distinguishing real angst, as expressed in the only way the writer/singer knows how from the gratuitous "this is the formula for a successful gangsta rap tune" kind of language. I'm far more offended by what some of the music from that community says about violence towards women than that they use four letter words to express themselves. Most profanity sounds pretty ignorant, but every once in a while, it makes a point. Doesn't stop me from enjoying the chicken story. (Did you get the 3' one G?)
I think what the pastor was expressing (badly, apparently) is that we should apply the Philippians 4:6 filter in what we listen to, read, or view: Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
Each of us needs to decide what is true, noble, right, pure and lovely within where we are RIGHT NOW. And that often changes as we change (or as we hear our kids say those choice words in cheerful abandon and we cringe, knowing their teacher is standing there listening!)
I can tell you that when I was in my 20's I was one cussin' kind of girl. But now, it has just dropped out of my vocabulary because I have found so many better ways to express myself -- FOR ME. May not be someone else's cup of tea.
You are a breath of fresh air in the Christian world. I agree with you 100%. You just put your finger on a big problem with Christianity right now. Preach it!
ReplyDeleteI adore The Bloggess and have for some time. What she, inadvertently, started last Christmas in sending gift cards to folks who were out of work and it spiraled into thousands of dollars being shared with those who needed it was absolutely amazing - a bit like what has been known to happen here. Plus, she's just hilarious.
ReplyDeleteShe now follows me on twitter and it makes me so proud. Odd, but proud.
OK, love The Bloggess..thank you for her...I love the chicken, but mostly I love that you share TRUTH JUSTICE & THE AMERICAN WAY...so thank you SuperGirl...step bt step Monkee Thinking will chane the world so it's better..the way we know it should be. Thank you for everything...
ReplyDeleteI love cussing almost as much as i love glennon and the monkees. xoxo
ReplyDeleteokay, this post totally made my day!!!! I was just listening to some eminem while my 2 little girls played in the background, and I felt so alive and so inspired and it is wonderful to know that other people can recognize the beauty and truth that is found in this music too! I have been reading your blog for a few months now, so I thought it was time I said hello! blessings to you and your family,
ReplyDeleteKatie in Canada
"Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer."
ReplyDelete- Mark Twain
I love "laaaiiid back. With their mind on their sandals and their sandals on their mind!" also love a good curse word every once in a while! Jen Z
ReplyDeleteGreat post GDo! Shout out to all the commenters - these comments are so good I can barely string a sentence together to respond. Grrlee hit it out of the park for me on the first comment...and I was going to go try to find the exact Mark Twain quote but Tom beat me to it. Happy Monday!
ReplyDeleteI have long considered the word "Goddamn" as a prayer of intercession but I can't get anyone to buy it. Maybe you could. Can't we ask God to damn some things like levee systems that collapse and flood a whole city? I'll bet God would really get on board with that. And our prayer to bring it to Her attention might be received attentively. Maybe God hadn't noticed until we pointed it out.
ReplyDeletelove it.
ReplyDeleteGreat post, G-bird, and excellent use of the "born on third" metaphor. It's my favorite and you did it justice!
ReplyDeleteNamaste!
Broo
"I’m not sure that being easily offended is a luxury that people who’ve been commanded to love each other can enjoy."
ReplyDeleteThis whole post resonates with me, but that line really sums it up. I have a pretty close relationship with "bad language" - in part because I'm none too wholesome myself, and in part because I have no kids yet and don't have to worry that the dog will learn to do as I do, not as I say - but really in large part because I want to live out my faith in an on-the-ground way.
I've never liked the way many Christians interpret the prescription to be "set apart" by their faith as meaning they should try to keep their noses clean. Even if you have great intentions, it's so easy to come off as holier-than-thou and intimidate people. It's important to me that only the Big Things set me apart - if I'm to be "set apart" as a Christian, let it be by an excess of love and forgiveness. In everything else, I'm going to do my darndest to meet people where they are.
I guess to me, living out my faith is about making people feel comfortable and known and understood, and I feel strongly that to succeed in that, I have to be able to fit in with them, to speak their language.
It's like Timon and Pumbaa said in The Lion King: "Kid, if you want to live with us... you have to eat like us."
Great post! Image credit should go to www.marriedtothesea.com
ReplyDeletesyd...thank you! i just added it!
ReplyDeletei am absolutely LOVING these comments.
No problem! Thank you! It's nice to see that there's a voice of reason around the Internet now and again. quite refreshing. :)
ReplyDeleteI don't mind cursing. Sometimes there is no other way to say it but with a good four letter word. And I'm with anonymous, "knock, knock motherfucker" had me cracking up for DAYS!
ReplyDeleteGlennon - great post!
And to me, a day is not complete without a good rap/hip hop song! I treasure the time in the car without the kids -I jam out like I'm 19 again! OW!
cursing was uber funny in an english is a second language household. the parents never could use the curse words appropriately, so when we grew up some we'd have to correct them. nothing like telling your dad, well, this is more of sh*t moment, the f bomb doesn't quite work here.
ReplyDeleteas far as music goes, my rap/hip hop songs and rock/heavy metal songs don't go over well in some circles, but i too love art. and some of it is beautiful angry violent art.
i have no kids so i'm that obnoxious person in the convertible zipping by you blasting rob zombie, marilyn manson, smashing pumpkins, public enemy or 2 live crew... depends on my mood. of course, with the i-phone, the songs jump from Dr. Dre to Jewel or Enya but it's all good.
okay, i'm rambling... great post G.
Amen sista and PREACE ON!
ReplyDeleteI LOVE the Bloggess and was completely surprised by this post while trolling adoption families' blogs! Fantabulous.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of adoption, we were asked to request a letter from the FBI regarding husband's criminal history - so, we have been down that path - albeit successfully. Praying for all involved!
Just discovered your blog through a friend and this is the first post I've read. LOVE IT! I love what you had to say.
ReplyDeleteI am a runner and recently posted a list of songs on my playlist as a way to motivate other runners on days when it is hard to get out and go. I wanted to post my REAL playlist...so I did. But it was not without some concern over what others might think. There is a lot of rap in there. But it gets the job done every time I lack the motivation I need and that was the message.
So far no negative feedback on my end but reading this has given me even more confidence in my choice to be real about it.